Comments on: What’s “Print?”

By: » The Week in Tweets for 2010-08-30 Bud the Teacher

» The Week in Tweets for 2010-08-30 Bud the Teacher — Mon, 30 Aug 2010 13:20:46 +0000

[...] @teachakidd Make sure the teacher knows. I've written a bit on this before. http://budtheteacher.com/blog/2009/11/24/whats-print/ in reply to jneman [...]

By: Lindsay Norwood

Lindsay Norwood — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 06:44:33 +0000

I’m not sure I understand what you mean when you say that we cannot let the technology dictate the pedagogy. In thinking of these as two different things, doesn’t it just reinforce the tourist mentality. Obviously, I agree with you that we need to be clear about methods and sources but shouldn’t the technology and pedagogy be inseparable? Shouldn’t we be thinking of them as being the same thing. I don’t think of writing and word processing as different things. Isn’t merging these types of concepts part of what Bud is talking about? Lest I sound condemning, know that I’m just thinking out loud and considering posing this question to my journalism students who I’m sure will just roll their eyes at me. While I struggle with the semantic issues about whether or not a newspaper published online a print or electronic resource.

On a side note, I have to really wonder how “primary” a source can really be in this day and age.

By: Jeri Hurd

Jeri Hurd — Wed, 06 Jan 2010 21:13:45 +0000

Well, yes and no.

I think it’s the terminology that’s dead, not the concept. When we, as educators, require two print sources ( or however many), what we mean is non-digitized texts. And we require that because reading a physical book is a very different experience from reading online, and even a different thought process.

Now, personally, I’m not one of those people who think reading an actual book is better. That’s a long-standing argument at our school. I DO believe students need both experiences.

Thus, the requirement might be better phrased as “digital v. non-digital.”

BTW: At our school, we tell students 15 sources, and 7 of them have to be primary. Digital or not isn’t even a factor.

By: Jenny

Jenny — Mon, 28 Dec 2009 21:04:21 +0000

Bud,
As a fifth grade teacher I’ve pondered this same topic. During our collaborative planning sessions with grade level teachers, the librarian, and technology teacher we’ve had interesting discussions regarding the resources we want students to know how access and use. The line separating a print source from a non print source has become increasingly gray. However, as we instruct students on how to access relevant traditional print sources such as books in our library and online sources an additional problem that keeps arising is that our students don’t know how to determine if a source is credible. Not only do students need to know how to access types of information, they need to learn how to determine if the source is a reliable source. I think defining requirements as primary and secondary may help to solidify the black line separating types of sources, but we can’t simply stop there. Students need to learn how to analyze sources to determine reliability.
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By: Nathan M

Nathan M — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 02:34:19 +0000

This is a great post. Actual print resources are slowly fading and everything is turning to an online database. The students of today, are not learning how to use “print resources” but are rather utilizing electronic search bases where numerous amounts of resources can be found in one click.

By: Holli Buchter

Holli Buchter — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:20:23 +0000

Great thought provoking post Bud. This post has made me comtemplate and question student research methods currrently in place in our school district. My thoughts do not completely mesh with yours, though. I disagree that the encyclopedia is not a viable source for high school research. I believe all research should begin with an encyclopedic search of some kind whether it be on-line or traditional print resources. This brings up another point-print is dead. I don't believe this to be the case. Based on the books I see come through Media Services for cataloging, print resources are being purchased for research purposes at a high volume. I do agree that the medium should not be assigned for the sake of using a certain medium. It should be assigned to provide students an opportunity to examine a variety of venues and formats for research and inquiry. Some print( I prefer the word "traditional") resources are primary sources and may not be available in an on-line environment, but that does not make them any less valuable. Reading a book electronically is still reading a book. Teachers should and my experience are assigning required sources exactly the way you recommend they do-not based on whether is paper or electronic, but based on the information they expect students to glean from those specific types of sources. .-= Holli Buchter´s last blog ..The Tech Savvy Booktalker: A guide for 21st-Century Educators =-.

By: Michael

Michael — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:36:47 +0000

As a third year college student I can defiantly agree that “print” is dead or dying. Only once have I physically gone to our university’s library to pick up a book for research. All my information from journals and even full texts of books I have found online for research. I do not see a problem with sitting at your desk or the computer lab and browsing the Internet for sources compared to walking the aisles in a library. However, it is still important to find scholarly and/or reliable sources.

I would agree to focus on reliable primary sources rather than print sources.

By: Stacy Nockowitz

Stacy Nockowitz — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:05:06 +0000

This issue is our problem, not the students. Because we are older and we are, no matter our level of comfort with technology, still the tourists and students are the natives. Oh, to be a native in their world! What we cannot do is let the technology dictate the pedagogy. The teachers (and librarians, of course) must be clear on what methods, sources, sites are appropriate well before assigning any research projects at all. We can also create our own search engines, too, if we use Google apps... .-= Stacy Nockowitz´s last blog ..Creating Lesson Plan Objectives =-.

By: K. Murphy

K. Murphy — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:24:22 +0000

As a recent student in high school and as a current college student I agree with this post. I found it rather hard to find “print”. When I needed a newspaper article I usually found those online. I loved using the internet because it was easier to find the exact information that you needed. I also think that students should be required to use .edu or .gov websites or just make sure that the websites have value. A student cannot trust just any website and expect to get true information.