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		<title>By: &#187; The Week in Tweets for 2009-11-22 Bud the Teacher</title>
		<link>http://budtheteacher.com/blog/2009/09/07/the-filter-for-the-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-2964</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; The Week in Tweets for 2009-11-22 Bud the Teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 06:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://budtheteacher.com/blog/2009/09/07/the-filter-for-the-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-2959</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that it is important to block some sites as you mention but blocking Facebook is an unnecessary step.  Schools should step up their programs and make them interesting so kids aren&#039;t running off to try to get on Facebook at school!
.-= Richard&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thisishowyoudoit.com/how-to-get-on-facebook-at-school/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How To Get On Facebook At School&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that it is important to block some sites as you mention but blocking Facebook is an unnecessary step.  Schools should step up their programs and make them interesting so kids aren&#8217;t running off to try to get on Facebook at school!<br />
.-= Richard&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://www.thisishowyoudoit.com/how-to-get-on-facebook-at-school/" rel="nofollow">How To Get On Facebook At School</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: The Day the Filters Came to School</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Day the Filters Came to School</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 07:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Matt Rundle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Rundle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 01:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am currently a preservice teacher majoring in Integrated Language Arts. In my practicum class we are utilizing facebook to teach students in a school district a few states away. We created professional facebook profiles and had the students do the same. Currently, we are posting various writing prompts for our students to respond to. In a few weeks we will using facebook to begin literature circles. I think that facebook has so many possibilities. Sure it helps people stay connected, but it can also be an important tool used in the classroom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am currently a preservice teacher majoring in Integrated Language Arts. In my practicum class we are utilizing facebook to teach students in a school district a few states away. We created professional facebook profiles and had the students do the same. Currently, we are posting various writing prompts for our students to respond to. In a few weeks we will using facebook to begin literature circles. I think that facebook has so many possibilities. Sure it helps people stay connected, but it can also be an important tool used in the classroom.</p>
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		<title>By: The Day the Filters Came to School &#124; Remote Access</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Day the Filters Came to School &#124; Remote Access</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 12:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ken Allan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Allan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 05:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kia ora e Bud!

I posted a comment against Darren&#039;s post, but I&#039;ll a;so paste it here for I think it&#039;s appropriate:

Kia ora e Darren!

I&#039;m quite taken aback.

If a school blocks Facebook it&#039;s opting out of a whole raft of responsibilities, none the least of which is safe networking on the Internet.

I have a dozen questions I&#039;d like to put here. The first two are specifically to do with the thrust of your post.

1 - When should kids be taught the safe and appropriate use of networking on the Internet?

2 - Who teaches kids this safe and appropriate use?

My metaphor for the situation is Road Safety when kids are walking on the walkways adjacent to road traffic.

3 - When should kids be taught the safe and appropriate use of walkways?

4 - Who takes the responsibility for teaching this to kids?

5 – Do schools opt out completely and leave this to parents and/or caregivers?

6 - Do you block kids from going out on the roads altogether? (&lt;i&gt;I know - very difficult to do - Just think about it.&lt;/i&gt;)

7 - If the school could stop them from accessing the walkways, at what age should they permit them to use walkways?

Say the age was 18 years old (choose your own selected age for this).

9 - At that age do you permit them to access the roads on their own?

10 - Is that when you start introducing Road Safety?

Hmmm.

Obviously none of the above ideas suggested in the questions 6 – 11 would be any real use for introducing Road Safety to kids.

11 - So when do kids get taught Road Safety?

12 - Who takes responsibility for this?

If you have answers to the last two questions you may also have the answers to my first two.

Catchya later
.-= Ken Allan&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://newmiddle-earth.blogspot.com/2009/09/visitor-to-second-life.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Visitor to Second Life&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kia ora e Bud!</p>
<p>I posted a comment against Darren&#8217;s post, but I&#8217;ll a;so paste it here for I think it&#8217;s appropriate:</p>
<p>Kia ora e Darren!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m quite taken aback.</p>
<p>If a school blocks Facebook it&#8217;s opting out of a whole raft of responsibilities, none the least of which is safe networking on the Internet.</p>
<p>I have a dozen questions I&#8217;d like to put here. The first two are specifically to do with the thrust of your post.</p>
<p>1 &#8211; When should kids be taught the safe and appropriate use of networking on the Internet?</p>
<p>2 &#8211; Who teaches kids this safe and appropriate use?</p>
<p>My metaphor for the situation is Road Safety when kids are walking on the walkways adjacent to road traffic.</p>
<p>3 &#8211; When should kids be taught the safe and appropriate use of walkways?</p>
<p>4 &#8211; Who takes the responsibility for teaching this to kids?</p>
<p>5 – Do schools opt out completely and leave this to parents and/or caregivers?</p>
<p>6 &#8211; Do you block kids from going out on the roads altogether? (<i>I know &#8211; very difficult to do &#8211; Just think about it.</i>)</p>
<p>7 &#8211; If the school could stop them from accessing the walkways, at what age should they permit them to use walkways?</p>
<p>Say the age was 18 years old (choose your own selected age for this).</p>
<p>9 &#8211; At that age do you permit them to access the roads on their own?</p>
<p>10 &#8211; Is that when you start introducing Road Safety?</p>
<p>Hmmm.</p>
<p>Obviously none of the above ideas suggested in the questions 6 – 11 would be any real use for introducing Road Safety to kids.</p>
<p>11 &#8211; So when do kids get taught Road Safety?</p>
<p>12 &#8211; Who takes responsibility for this?</p>
<p>If you have answers to the last two questions you may also have the answers to my first two.</p>
<p>Catchya later<br />
.-= Ken Allan&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://newmiddle-earth.blogspot.com/2009/09/visitor-to-second-life.html" rel="nofollow">Visitor to Second Life</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 02:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our school is getting ready to implement P.B.S. which stands for positive behavior support. As usual, it&#039;s completely backed by sound research. Here&#039;s the basic idea: reward positive behavior. Focus less on penalizing bad behavior. Does this have anything to do with filtering? I think so. Like Karl said, we know the difference between right and wrong. If we focus on control and penalties, the results will be less than we expect. Just ask the kids who had a million detentions for not doing homework (like me.) It doesn&#039;t work.
.-= Chris Moore&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://eastdragonden.blogspot.com/2009/05/welcome.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Welcome!&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our school is getting ready to implement P.B.S. which stands for positive behavior support. As usual, it&#8217;s completely backed by sound research. Here&#8217;s the basic idea: reward positive behavior. Focus less on penalizing bad behavior. Does this have anything to do with filtering? I think so. Like Karl said, we know the difference between right and wrong. If we focus on control and penalties, the results will be less than we expect. Just ask the kids who had a million detentions for not doing homework (like me.) It doesn&#8217;t work.<br />
.-= Chris Moore&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://eastdragonden.blogspot.com/2009/05/welcome.html" rel="nofollow">Welcome!</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Lesley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lesley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 01:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am currently studying this issue now for a large suburb in GA that is very far from even considering allowing Facebook in schools.  Twitter, Voicethread, and Wikipedia are blocked.  I would so appreciate if you and the other IT decision makers who are reading and responding to this issue could help me with my research on this issue by completing this survey.  Perhaps with your help and input- Facebook could be on or maybe near the table in a few years.  Thanks so much in advance! http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dFpVM1VjUGZPdXRRY0l3bmhGeXcxeFE6MA..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am currently studying this issue now for a large suburb in GA that is very far from even considering allowing Facebook in schools.  Twitter, Voicethread, and Wikipedia are blocked.  I would so appreciate if you and the other IT decision makers who are reading and responding to this issue could help me with my research on this issue by completing this survey.  Perhaps with your help and input- Facebook could be on or maybe near the table in a few years.  Thanks so much in advance! <a href="http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dFpVM1VjUGZPdXRRY0l3bmhGeXcxeFE6MA." rel="nofollow">http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dFpVM1VjUGZPdXRRY0l3bmhGeXcxeFE6MA.</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Fisch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl Fisch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 01:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darren and Bud,

I have had similar conversations in my district around the idea of why do we think we have to have separate rules for technology. The basic values we ask teachers and students to adhere to apply just as well to technology issues as they do to everything else, why with technology do we suddenly think we have to have a laundry list of “shall nots?” Much like our earlier discussion about “acceptable use policies” versus “responsible use policies (http://thefischbowl.blogspot.com/2008/12/lets-get-rid-of-acceptable-use-policies.html),” I would like the focus to be on how students should be using these tools well, not on which ones should be banned or blocked.

Perhaps this is naive, but this is my basic position: students and teachers know when they are doing the right thing and when they are not. And when they don’t do the right thing, then we should have a conversation with them. But let’s don’t assume they are going to do the wrong thing and then try to “prevent” it somehow by filtering.

We trust our teachers to be physically in the classroom (and on the sports fields and in our activities) with our students day in and day out, pretty much without any kind of “supervision.” There is much more potential for abuse (in all meanings of that word) in that physical situation than with technology, so why do we continue to invest so much time, energy and money into filtering when we apparently don’t really care that much about what’s going on in the classroom (at least based on the resources we devote to observation/mentoring/professional development)?
.-= Karl Fisch&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://thefischbowl.blogspot.com/2009/09/low-fidelity-education.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;A Low-Fidelity Education?&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darren and Bud,</p>
<p>I have had similar conversations in my district around the idea of why do we think we have to have separate rules for technology. The basic values we ask teachers and students to adhere to apply just as well to technology issues as they do to everything else, why with technology do we suddenly think we have to have a laundry list of “shall nots?” Much like our earlier discussion about “acceptable use policies” versus “responsible use policies (<a href="http://thefischbowl.blogspot.com/2008/12/lets-get-rid-of-acceptable-use-policies.html" rel="nofollow">http://thefischbowl.blogspot.com/2008/12/lets-get-rid-of-acceptable-use-policies.html</a>),” I would like the focus to be on how students should be using these tools well, not on which ones should be banned or blocked.</p>
<p>Perhaps this is naive, but this is my basic position: students and teachers know when they are doing the right thing and when they are not. And when they don’t do the right thing, then we should have a conversation with them. But let’s don’t assume they are going to do the wrong thing and then try to “prevent” it somehow by filtering.</p>
<p>We trust our teachers to be physically in the classroom (and on the sports fields and in our activities) with our students day in and day out, pretty much without any kind of “supervision.” There is much more potential for abuse (in all meanings of that word) in that physical situation than with technology, so why do we continue to invest so much time, energy and money into filtering when we apparently don’t really care that much about what’s going on in the classroom (at least based on the resources we devote to observation/mentoring/professional development)?<br />
.-= Karl Fisch&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://thefischbowl.blogspot.com/2009/09/low-fidelity-education.html" rel="nofollow">A Low-Fidelity Education?</a> =-.</p>
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