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		<title>By: Understanding Free &#171; HOME STUDY</title>
		<link>http://budtheteacher.com/blog/2009/02/08/its-not-glamourous-just-essential/comment-page-1/#comment-3127</link>
		<dc:creator>Understanding Free &#171; HOME STUDY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 14:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] have been many discussions about the value of institutions providing their own spaces for students.&#160; Sometimes this isn&#8217;t an option and so part of my thinking is to provide [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Understanding Free &#124; Ideas and Thoughts from an EdTech</title>
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		<dc:creator>Understanding Free &#124; Ideas and Thoughts from an EdTech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 23:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] have been many discussions about the value of institutions providing their own spaces for students.&#160; Sometimes this isn&#8217;t an option and so part of my thinking is to provide [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://budtheteacher.com/blog/2009/02/08/its-not-glamourous-just-essential/comment-page-1/#comment-2156</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about using a standard inflation model. Start with a set amount of storage space in year one, and then increase by 3-5% per year. You can budget, and then as costs of storage continue to come down, the budget works in your favor as storage costs less each year.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Bens last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.techsavvyed.net/?p=577&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Saying Goodbye…&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about using a standard inflation model. Start with a set amount of storage space in year one, and then increase by 3-5% per year. You can budget, and then as costs of storage continue to come down, the budget works in your favor as storage costs less each year.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Bens last blog post..<a href="http://www.techsavvyed.net/?p=577" rel="nofollow">Saying Goodbye…</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Matt Montagne</title>
		<link>http://budtheteacher.com/blog/2009/02/08/its-not-glamourous-just-essential/comment-page-1/#comment-2147</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Montagne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 04:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stay away from expensive LAN storage systems...you get very, very little bang for your buck with these proprietary SAN storage solutions and they&#039;re extremely expensive to support and maintain.

Several years ago at my old school we ended up puchasing a Dell SAN for 120K...for this kind of cost one would think we could set quotas higher than 60 MB for students and 1 GB for teachers that we ended up with.  Additional blade modules for storage were extremely expensive (we were stuck with a razor/razor blade proposition).

You&#039;d be much, much better off harnessing the local storage capacity of your teacher computers and having them back up to external drives.  You can pick up 1 TB drives for less than $100.  For 20K you can pick up 200 TB of storage...you&#039;ll never be able to acquire this much storage on the network side for a reasonable cost.

Combine this with a google apps network and other web applications and you&#039;re good to go.  Use all the money you&#039;ll save by avoiding the expensive LAN storage solution and buy more bandwidth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stay away from expensive LAN storage systems&#8230;you get very, very little bang for your buck with these proprietary SAN storage solutions and they&#8217;re extremely expensive to support and maintain.</p>
<p>Several years ago at my old school we ended up puchasing a Dell SAN for 120K&#8230;for this kind of cost one would think we could set quotas higher than 60 MB for students and 1 GB for teachers that we ended up with.  Additional blade modules for storage were extremely expensive (we were stuck with a razor/razor blade proposition).</p>
<p>You&#8217;d be much, much better off harnessing the local storage capacity of your teacher computers and having them back up to external drives.  You can pick up 1 TB drives for less than $100.  For 20K you can pick up 200 TB of storage&#8230;you&#8217;ll never be able to acquire this much storage on the network side for a reasonable cost.</p>
<p>Combine this with a google apps network and other web applications and you&#8217;re good to go.  Use all the money you&#8217;ll save by avoiding the expensive LAN storage solution and buy more bandwidth.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Montagne</title>
		<link>http://budtheteacher.com/blog/2009/02/08/its-not-glamourous-just-essential/comment-page-1/#comment-2144</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Montagne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 02:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would suggest a move away from expensive, proprietary network storage systems ...they get old quickly and are expensive to administer and update.  When it comes to adding fiber/SATA disks to expand storage, it can get extremely expensive very fast.  At my previous school we spent 120 K on a Dell storage SAN thinking we got a great deal...but it was crazy expensive to add more storage (it was kind of a razor/razor blade thing).   Also, even with a $120 K storage solution our students were still had 60 MB quotas and our teachers had 1 GB quotas.

You&#039;re much, much better off utilizing the massive storage that comes on individual computers now...buy everyone in your district a terabyte external disk like this one for backups and save yourself the expense of crazy expensive network storage systems: http://www.buy.com/prod/cavalry-1tb-usb-2-0-external-hard-drive-cavalry-usb-2-0-external-hard/q/loc/101/206746682.html

Take all that money you&#039;ll save by avoiding an expensive LAN network storage system and spend it on bandwidth.

~Matt

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Matt Montagnes last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/MiddleSchoolEdTechBlog/~3/536881413/acer-aspire-one-in-house.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Acer Aspire One in the House!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would suggest a move away from expensive, proprietary network storage systems &#8230;they get old quickly and are expensive to administer and update.  When it comes to adding fiber/SATA disks to expand storage, it can get extremely expensive very fast.  At my previous school we spent 120 K on a Dell storage SAN thinking we got a great deal&#8230;but it was crazy expensive to add more storage (it was kind of a razor/razor blade thing).   Also, even with a $120 K storage solution our students were still had 60 MB quotas and our teachers had 1 GB quotas.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re much, much better off utilizing the massive storage that comes on individual computers now&#8230;buy everyone in your district a terabyte external disk like this one for backups and save yourself the expense of crazy expensive network storage systems: <a href="http://www.buy.com/prod/cavalry-1tb-usb-2-0-external-hard-drive-cavalry-usb-2-0-external-hard/q/loc/101/206746682.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.buy.com/prod/cavalry-1tb-usb-2-0-external-hard-drive-cavalry-usb-2-0-external-hard/q/loc/101/206746682.html</a></p>
<p>Take all that money you&#8217;ll save by avoiding an expensive LAN network storage system and spend it on bandwidth.</p>
<p>~Matt</p>
<p><abbr><em>Matt Montagnes last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/MiddleSchoolEdTechBlog/~3/536881413/acer-aspire-one-in-house.html" rel="nofollow">Acer Aspire One in the House!</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 20:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bud.

Recently one of our teachers filled up his 750 MB limit.  I think it now has been increased to 1 GB (1000 MB) for him.  That seemed like a temporary fix and  reminded me of a program that one of my students wrote in Java.  Since he wanted to use arrays, he allocated a certain size that the array could become.  Then, when it ran out of room, he had the program automatically create a new array that was twice as large.   When that one filled up--again, a new array twice as large as that one.  

I think some kind of system where a set level for most users is sufficient, yet with some kind of exponential growth potential for those that legitimately need it--maybe something like that would be best.

Thousands of text files = one Windows Bitmap file.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bud.</p>
<p>Recently one of our teachers filled up his 750 MB limit.  I think it now has been increased to 1 GB (1000 MB) for him.  That seemed like a temporary fix and  reminded me of a program that one of my students wrote in Java.  Since he wanted to use arrays, he allocated a certain size that the array could become.  Then, when it ran out of room, he had the program automatically create a new array that was twice as large.   When that one filled up&#8211;again, a new array twice as large as that one.  </p>
<p>I think some kind of system where a set level for most users is sufficient, yet with some kind of exponential growth potential for those that legitimately need it&#8211;maybe something like that would be best.</p>
<p>Thousands of text files = one Windows Bitmap file.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackie Ballarini</title>
		<link>http://budtheteacher.com/blog/2009/02/08/its-not-glamourous-just-essential/comment-page-1/#comment-2141</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackie Ballarini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 01:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, my current documents folder is 1.85GB. No movies. No music. No personal pictures. My current &quot;math_teaching&quot; folder alone has 667.1 MB. Then again, I&#039;m kind of skeptical of the cloud and keep local copies of everything. I also host my school website (and associated uploads) offsite, so these figures don&#039;t include those files.

Our school allows us 2.5 GB of server space per teacher. This doesn&#039;t include the shared server space. 

I have no idea how you&#039;d figure this out for a whole school. I hope my data helps. I&#039;d like to hear what you finally decide upon (and how).

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Jackie Ballarinis last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://continuities.wordpress.com/2009/02/09/why-not-both/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Why not both?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, my current documents folder is 1.85GB. No movies. No music. No personal pictures. My current &#8220;math_teaching&#8221; folder alone has 667.1 MB. Then again, I&#8217;m kind of skeptical of the cloud and keep local copies of everything. I also host my school website (and associated uploads) offsite, so these figures don&#8217;t include those files.</p>
<p>Our school allows us 2.5 GB of server space per teacher. This doesn&#8217;t include the shared server space. </p>
<p>I have no idea how you&#8217;d figure this out for a whole school. I hope my data helps. I&#8217;d like to hear what you finally decide upon (and how).</p>
<p><abbr><em>Jackie Ballarinis last blog post..<a href="http://continuities.wordpress.com/2009/02/09/why-not-both/" rel="nofollow">Why not both?</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 08:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>640K should be enough for anyone...

You&#039;ll likely have a massive variation in requirements from staff and students alike - so many factors come into play: Are they heavy users? Do they want to store revisions or just final versions? Are they working with video/graphics? etc...

One solution would be to plan for easy and fast expansion - you can promise a reasonable/high amount and bank on the majority of your users not using it to anything near capacity. Think Gmail/most webhosts. If you&#039;re going to have a reasonably large user base then statistics will be your friend and help you predict future requirements.

Try this: http://blog.dreamhost.com/2006/05/18/the-truth-about-overselling/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>640K should be enough for anyone&#8230;</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll likely have a massive variation in requirements from staff and students alike &#8211; so many factors come into play: Are they heavy users? Do they want to store revisions or just final versions? Are they working with video/graphics? etc&#8230;</p>
<p>One solution would be to plan for easy and fast expansion &#8211; you can promise a reasonable/high amount and bank on the majority of your users not using it to anything near capacity. Think Gmail/most webhosts. If you&#8217;re going to have a reasonably large user base then statistics will be your friend and help you predict future requirements.</p>
<p>Try this: <a href="http://blog.dreamhost.com/2006/05/18/the-truth-about-overselling/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.dreamhost.com/2006/05/18/the-truth-about-overselling/</a></p>
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