At the recommendation of Gary Stager and Chris Lehmann, one of my summer reads is A Schoolmaster of the Great City by Angelo Patri. Truly, there is nothing new under the sun. The book was written by Patri in 1917. It rings true, though, with much of what I worry about in our schools today. Patri faced the same problems and shares many of my passions. That’s both troublesome and reassuring. I’ll be seeking out more of his work. In the meantime, here are some of the lines that jumped out at me as I read today: #
- The antagonism between the children and teachers was far stronger than I had ever seen it before. The antagonism between the school and the neighborhood was intense. Both came from mutual distrust founded on mutual misunderstanding. The children were afraid of the teachers, and the teachers feared the children. (p. 14)
- As each day went by, cautiously I put the problem of school discipline before them and they responded by taking over much of the responsibility for it themselves. (p. 15)
- In this restless, uncertain sea of motion, noise, color and goings; of constant goings upstairs and downstairs, one learned to ‘go slow’ and watch and wait for his opportunity. (p. 19)
- The rod idea was at work. Books, benches, crowded rooms, sitting still, listening; talking only when called upon to recite, teaching where the teachers did the thinking; these conditions have meant and always will mean an imposed discipline, an imposed routine, whereas real discipline is a personal thing, a part of the understanding soul. To replace discipline of teacher-responsibility by the discipline of child-responsibility is a long, slow process. (p. 27)
- It was difficult to get teachers away from subject matter, from machinery, and toward children. How could it be otherwise? (p.30)
- I wanted ideas expressed in color, movement, fun and not lines, ideas and not perfect papers, every one alike . . . . I wanted nature that would make the child’s heart warm with sympathy . . .that would make him laugh to feel the snow and the rain and the wind beating on his face. (p. 30)
- The feeling for the things that I wanted was rather more definite than the knowledge of how to attain the desired results. (p. 30)(Karl – that quote was just for you. We all get stuck.)
- (On teaching robins) ‘Suppose you meet the class under the big oak tree in the morning and look for robins. Watch them until you and the children know as much about them as one can learn by looking . . . . Then talk over what you’ve seen and learned. Let everybody say his say sometime or other. . . . Then when you have all the facts about him select those that are most worthwhile, and present them as the robin story. You’ll find you’ll need very little drill.’ (p. 32)
- I felt that we had to win the parents as well as the taechers if the changes we were making, our emphasis on the ‘fads and frills’ of education, were to be accepted in the homes. (p. 33)
- Many parents believe that this is education. . . . They fear freedom, they fear to let the child grow by himself. (p. 37)
- I wanted opportunity for the masses, the best schools for the crowds, the best teachers for the heaviest load. I thought in terms of service, they in terms of tradition. (p. 41)
Um, Bud… aren’t you supposed to be on a beach on vacation right now?
Anyway, I just bought a 1965 book on computer software today and have also been amazed at how much has NOT changed in computer programming. I mean this book was written in the days of punch cards and big computers that filled entire rooms, and yet the section on debugging is still pretty relevant today….
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Bud,
Interesting read, I might just have to put it on my list.
I remember my mentor when I was student teaching, picked by me not the school, saying that all these teaching methods I was learning seemed eerily similar to the open teaching that was all the rage when she was in teaching education.
She did however feel they were improved and adopted many into her classroom.
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I find it very interesting and basically depressing that problems in schools almost 100 years ago still exist today. I too am interested in getting this book, having just begun grad school for my masters and credential. Thank you for your insight!
“Frills and fads” of education, huh? Sounds like the response I often get when I talk about incorporating the “fad” of online discussion. I guess the more things change, the more they stay the same.
Why do I have a feeling that teachers 100 years from now just might be going through these exact same problems, too?
I don’t find it depressing, because I’m not convinced that the struggle is a bad thing, really. Even if the only progress is for just one class, one student, one teacher. They add up.
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Bud, the book is in the public domain, and you can download a PDF of this book at http://books.google.com/books/pdf/A_Schoolmaster_of_the_Great_City.pdf?id=CgITAAAAIAAJ&output=pdf&sig=ACfU3U10t-9oaybyfTattJtLCuphd0i6lw
“I find it very interesting and basically depressing that problems in schools almost 100 years ago still exist today.”
It’s a very successful system that accomplishes it’s goal. If it wasn’t, we would have changed it by now. Of course, that begs the question of what the real goal is.
Hi, Bud,
I found you through California teacher’s blog. Thanks for the book recommendation. I’ll add this to my list. I’ve been looking for interesting summer reading.
I’m not surprised from the findings. There’s a lot more teachers and the system can do to alleviate some of the stresses.
Have a good summer.
Dorit
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Bud – thanks for the review.
Brad’s link to the book in the comments didn’t work
Here is another place to find it:
http://www.archive.org/details/schoolmasterofgr00patr
If for some reason that link breaks, go to archive.org and do a search for angelo patri.
There are quite a number of writings and thought on teaching from way back when that talk about the same things we do today…Look at Dewey!
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Hi Tracy,
I just double-checked the link and it opened fine for me. Do you have Acrobat Reader installed? Has anybody else tried it?
It worked for me (thanks Brad).
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Hi Bud,
You mentioned that you are looking for more of Patri’s work. I found two books by Patri:
http://books.google.com/books/pdf/Pinocchio_in_Africa.pdf?id=jhNHAAAAIAAJ&output=pdf&sig=ACfU3U2oCIpYB7WrlPIh1gccQTa2Ns7GsQ
http://books.google.com/books/pdf/Child_Training.pdf?id=IcQ66IPpXngC&output=pdf&sig=ACfU3U1O_61XnjTfDcO4ExrKS0UoXDSeLg
The first book, Pinnochio in Africa, has illustrations that make Amos ‘n’ Andy look like a paragon of racial sensitivity.
I have read lots of education books that have been from the recent past and I am also interested in how little has really changed in more than 50 years in some places. I was introduced to “Workshop Way” a few years back which was developed by Grace Pilon many years ago in the Chicago projects. Her ideas and are as relevant today as they were back then, giving students the responsibility for their learning….It is interesting how ideas get recycled. Thank you for writing about this.
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Bud,
like the new look!
Susan
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