Comments on: Learning to Change. Changing to Learn http://budtheteacher.com/blog/2008/05/15/learning-to-change-changing-to-learn/ Inquiry & Reflection for Better Learning Tue, 22 May 2012 11:05:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Bill Fitzgerald http://budtheteacher.com/blog/2008/05/15/learning-to-change-changing-to-learn/comment-page-1/#comment-1636 Bill Fitzgerald Wed, 21 May 2008 01:12:46 +0000 http://budtheteacher.com/blog/?p=633#comment-1636 Just saw on the OLDaily that they pulled the video -- What's up with that? Any announcements/explanations as to why? Cheers, Bill Just saw on the OLDaily that they pulled the video —

What’s up with that? Any announcements/explanations as to why?

Cheers,

Bill

]]> By: sylvia martinez http://budtheteacher.com/blog/2008/05/15/learning-to-change-changing-to-learn/comment-page-1/#comment-1635 sylvia martinez Tue, 20 May 2008 04:02:09 +0000 http://budtheteacher.com/blog/?p=633#comment-1635 Consider the video sponsor - Pearson Foundation. Pearson's software is a top-down command and control delivery system, the antithesis of what this video purports to be about. It's just contentless propoganda. I don't care if it is a "conversation starter", it's about trying to co-opt the conversation. The sloppiness of the ???? in the credits is just an indication of how little regard they have for the community. Consider the video sponsor – Pearson Foundation. Pearson’s software is a top-down command and control delivery system, the antithesis of what this video purports to be about. It’s just contentless propoganda. I don’t care if it is a “conversation starter”, it’s about trying to co-opt the conversation.

The sloppiness of the ???? in the credits is just an indication of how little regard they have for the community.

]]> By: Rich Platts http://budtheteacher.com/blog/2008/05/15/learning-to-change-changing-to-learn/comment-page-1/#comment-1633 Rich Platts Sat, 17 May 2008 12:49:08 +0000 http://budtheteacher.com/blog/?p=633#comment-1633 @will This is exactly my problem with this, I may not be the most connected to the broader network, but finding information on an of these folks was a bit of a challenge. I think it was Heppel that claimed that nothing exists for teachers to share, reflect, etc. Isn't that what we are doing right now? Perhaps the task is to get more educators involved in the conversation -- it has to be very grassroots - the video feels very ivory tower. @will This is exactly my problem with this, I may not be the most connected to the broader network, but finding information on an of these folks was a bit of a challenge. I think it was Heppel that claimed that nothing exists for teachers to share, reflect, etc. Isn’t that what we are doing right now? Perhaps the task is to get more educators involved in the conversation — it has to be very grassroots – the video feels very ivory tower.

]]> By: Will Richardson http://budtheteacher.com/blog/2008/05/15/learning-to-change-changing-to-learn/comment-page-1/#comment-1627 Will Richardson Sat, 17 May 2008 06:54:53 +0000 http://budtheteacher.com/blog/?p=633#comment-1627 I don't think I ever responded to your Tweet about this. Call me a snob, but once again, I wonder how many of these folks really understand what's happening right now. Whitby and Heppell, yes. The rest? They are excluded from my learning network by the fact that they don't use the tools. I find most of this to be pretty usual fare from folks who aren't exploring the shift. Yes, I know it's a one-dimensional response. Sue me, but if you're talking about changing education without fundamentally challenging and changing the way you yourself get educated, I tend not to listen so much. I don’t think I ever responded to your Tweet about this. Call me a snob, but once again, I wonder how many of these folks really understand what’s happening right now. Whitby and Heppell, yes. The rest? They are excluded from my learning network by the fact that they don’t use the tools. I find most of this to be pretty usual fare from folks who aren’t exploring the shift. Yes, I know it’s a one-dimensional response. Sue me, but if you’re talking about changing education without fundamentally challenging and changing the way you yourself get educated, I tend not to listen so much.

]]> By: mrplatts.com » Blog Archive » Learning to Change, Changing to Learn http://budtheteacher.com/blog/2008/05/15/learning-to-change-changing-to-learn/comment-page-1/#comment-1626 mrplatts.com » Blog Archive » Learning to Change, Changing to Learn Sat, 17 May 2008 03:10:31 +0000 http://budtheteacher.com/blog/?p=633#comment-1626 [...] for School Networking (CoSN) appeared in my RSS reader Thursday via Bud Hunt's website (budtheteacher.com).  I was immediately drawn in by the first [...] [...] for School Networking (CoSN) appeared in my RSS reader Thursday via Bud Hunt's website (budtheteacher.com).  I was immediately drawn in by the first [...]

]]> By: Bonnie K http://budtheteacher.com/blog/2008/05/15/learning-to-change-changing-to-learn/comment-page-1/#comment-1625 Bonnie K Sat, 17 May 2008 00:50:05 +0000 http://budtheteacher.com/blog/?p=633#comment-1625 I love this one that I "borrowed from Paul Allison's blog: We Think http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiP79vYsfbo&eurl= Bonnie I love this one that I “borrowed from Paul Allison’s blog: We Think
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiP79vYsfbo&eurl=
Bonnie

]]> By: Rich Platts http://budtheteacher.com/blog/2008/05/15/learning-to-change-changing-to-learn/comment-page-1/#comment-1623 Rich Platts Fri, 16 May 2008 17:12:47 +0000 http://budtheteacher.com/blog/?p=633#comment-1623 Barabara Nielson - University of Lousiville former South Carolina State Superintendent of Education http://tinyurl.com/6avqr4 Barabara Nielson – University of Lousiville
former South Carolina State Superintendent of Education
http://tinyurl.com/6avqr4

]]> By: Rich Platts http://budtheteacher.com/blog/2008/05/15/learning-to-change-changing-to-learn/comment-page-1/#comment-1622 Rich Platts Fri, 16 May 2008 17:05:46 +0000 http://budtheteacher.com/blog/?p=633#comment-1622 I going to add to my last comment -- The lady I referred to as where I lost faith in the video is apparently, as far as I can guess from trying to interpret the 'order of appearance' in the credits is listed as Barbara S. Nielson -- although everyone else has complete titles (which would have been nice as an overlay when the people talked) hers reads ?????????????????? - no, really check it out. What a huge mistake in releasing this high profile video with all these top names, Dan Pink, Kieth Kruger, et al. and then include someone in the credits as ?????????? - it really undermines the entire project. Also, for the purposes of making this part of the 'conversation' some sort of website, or additional details would have been key. They didn't even include the COSN website in there. . . I going to add to my last comment — The lady I referred to as where I lost faith in the video is apparently, as far as I can guess from trying to interpret the ‘order of appearance’ in the credits is listed as Barbara S. Nielson — although everyone else has complete titles (which would have been nice as an overlay when the people talked) hers reads ?????????????????? – no, really check it out. What a huge mistake in releasing this high profile video with all these top names, Dan Pink, Kieth Kruger, et al. and then include someone in the credits as ?????????? – it really undermines the entire project.

Also, for the purposes of making this part of the ‘conversation’ some sort of website, or additional details would have been key. They didn’t even include the COSN website in there. . .

]]> By: Rich Platts http://budtheteacher.com/blog/2008/05/15/learning-to-change-changing-to-learn/comment-page-1/#comment-1621 Rich Platts Fri, 16 May 2008 16:54:48 +0000 http://budtheteacher.com/blog/?p=633#comment-1621 I'm on the fence here. As a conversation starter, I think this is spot on. I agree with perhaps 90% of what is said in the video. I'm appalled, though unsurprised by the finding that Education is ranked 55th in "IT intensiveness." As a conversation starter it is great, but if I showed this to many of my colleagues, I would be laughed out of the room. I think the point that loses me is when the ladies in the video (who they are exactly is still mysterious) they talk about building schools today that are not brick and mortar classrooms. . . and the guy talking vaguely about kids walking around with cell phones collecting data. I'm still trying to track down the IT intensivness study -- can anyone point me in the right direction for some more background (citations) on this video, it wasn't immediately apparent at the COSN website. This video has been hanging around in my head since I saw it yesterday. I guess what bothered me is how much I agree with it, but am still turned off by it at the same time. I would love to continue discussing this. I'm @mrplatts on twitter . . . I’m on the fence here. As a conversation starter, I think this is spot on. I agree with perhaps 90% of what is said in the video. I’m appalled, though unsurprised by the finding that Education is ranked 55th in “IT intensiveness.” As a conversation starter it is great, but if I showed this to many of my colleagues, I would be laughed out of the room. I think the point that loses me is when the ladies in the video (who they are exactly is still mysterious) they talk about building schools today that are not brick and mortar classrooms. . . and the guy talking vaguely about kids walking around with cell phones collecting data.

I’m still trying to track down the IT intensivness study — can anyone point me in the right direction for some more background (citations) on this video, it wasn’t immediately apparent at the COSN website.

This video has been hanging around in my head since I saw it yesterday. I guess what bothered me is how much I agree with it, but am still turned off by it at the same time. I would love to continue discussing this. I’m @mrplatts on twitter . . .

]]> By: Sue http://budtheteacher.com/blog/2008/05/15/learning-to-change-changing-to-learn/comment-page-1/#comment-1620 Sue Fri, 16 May 2008 15:04:19 +0000 http://budtheteacher.com/blog/?p=633#comment-1620 Our school district has a Big Picture High School. Students spend 2 days a week at internships or job shadows. They spend the other 3 days working on goals and projects of their choosing. Students have one teacher only for 4 years. Students and parents love this school. That video expresses the future of education completely. http://www.hsd401.org/ourschools/highschools/bigpicture/ Our school district has a Big Picture High School. Students spend 2 days a week at internships or job shadows. They spend the other 3 days working on goals and projects of their choosing. Students have one teacher only for 4 years. Students and parents love this school. That video expresses the future of education completely. http://www.hsd401.org/ourschools/highschools/bigpicture/

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