Bud the Teacher

A Belated Answer

November 12th, 2007 · 3 Comments

    About a week ago, Brian posted:

Paul Hamilton  left this comment on my last post:

This week, I did a workshop for
classroom teachers on using blogging in the classroom as one UDL
approach for ALL learners. There were questions about the quality of
posted student writing. So, here are my questions to you. Do you
approve and/or edit every student post? How much editing do you do? How
time consuming is the process? (I notice that you were working at it on
a Friday evening!) Do you have any related tips for teachers who are
holding back out of concerns in this area?

Since I’m not sure about the statute of limitations on blog responses, I’m going to answer now, as I was asked at the end of the post. 

    I’ve run blogs where I approve everything and others where my students had all the control of what got published and when.  I always approved material for our student newspaper (now defunct, sigh), in part because I wanted an opportunity to do revision and editing with each student, and in part because I thought the professional nature of the newspaper made sense for such controls.  When I taught speech via blogs, I was willing to let my students decide what they published and when.  We discussed appropriate behavior as well as that if they weren’t sure about whether or not to publish , they could certainly seek the advice of their fellow students or their teacher.  Since their blogs were more for reporting research than they were for formal presentation, I tended to cut the students some leeway when it came to the "rules."  If it was readable, and approaching formal English (or, if you prefer, "acceptable public voice,"), then I let it go. 
    In two years of blogging with students, I asked one student to change a piece, once, and even he agreed, after re-reading, that he shouldn’t have hit "publish" in the first place - but that he was frustrated when he made the post.
    The time involved with editing is much the same as with not editing.  I think it’s irresponsible for a teacher to require writing and then to not read that writing.  (I don’t mean read every word; teachers, though, should at least skim every post a student makes, for a number of reasons.)  So whether or not a teacher is editing prior to publication, or is reading after publication, the time factor is still there.  I would argue for making the time spent editing a student’s work with a student a learning experience, akin to a writing conference.
     The trick, when editing, is to help the writer to become a better writer - and not to mask their student voice with your own teacher voice.  I struggle with that one every time I work with a student in a conference. I don’t think we should edit every word or sentence for grammar and proper punctuation - but we should attend to egregious errors.  Your own judgment will help you to determine what "egregious" means for your students. 
    I hope this is helpful, even if it’s a bit late.  You asked a great set of questions, Paul.  Thanks, Brian, for allowing me to take a crack at them. 

Tags: Blogging Community · Democratic Classroom · Journalism · Student Blogs · Teaching Miscellany · Writing

3 responses so far ↓

  • Paul Hamilton // Nov 13th 2007 at 9:48 pm

    Thanks Bud. Helpful observations are never too late! Thanks for the input. I especially concur with your line stating, “The trick, when editing, is to help the writer to become a better writer - and not to mask their student voice with your own teacher voice.” It seems to me that this business of approving and editing is more art than science. That’s probably true of almost everything we attempt as educators. –Paul

  • Clay Burell // Nov 18th 2007 at 3:35 am

    Hi Bud,
    A good question from Paul. My own experience this year has been interesting to me, so maybe it will be to others as well.

    I subscribe to all my students’ blogs in one folder on Bloglines. They publish autonomously, but in a couple of instances, they showed bad judgment. One student published something of an emotional breakdown that I didn’t think the world should have access to; the other simply used the “s-bomb” when a milder “crap,” for example, would’ve served just fine.

    These cases make WordPress MU wonderful for me. I simply went into their dashboards (I’m the administrator of the entire site), and changed the meltdown post to “private” - only viewable by the student, until I have time to talk to her - and the S-bomb to that gentler “crap.”

    I also use Diigo highlights and stickynotes, shared only with our class Diigo group, on the permalink page of each post to leave more “teacher-y” comments, while using the public “comment” box to have the more conversational, authentic dialogs proper to real blogs.

    So far, I find this nice and manageable.

    My challenges are getting them to write more frequently and connectively. How are you doing on those fronts? Techniques? Successes?

  • Clay Burell // Nov 18th 2007 at 3:37 am

    (Out of curiosity, does Typepad have a “subscribe to comments” plugin or “email replies” type thingy? Would be nice!)

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