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		<title>By: Nancy</title>
		<link>http://budtheteacher.com/blog/2007/05/02/no-e-mails-please/comment-page-1/#comment-1003</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 00:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For my elementary students we set up accounts at think.com.  It is very closed environment--actually too closed for my taste, but gives you an email that others people cannot access without being added to the students address book.  I&#039;ve also found over the years that what email address you use to get other accounts (like blogs, wikispaces, scrapblog accounts, smilebox accounts, etc) doesn&#039;t have to be a real one so you could use johns.brownschool@think.com, for instance and know one would ever be the wiser. 

P.S. We always get parent permission at the first of the year for setting up think.com accounts, emails, webpages, blogs, wikis, etc.  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For my elementary students we set up accounts at think.com.  It is very closed environment&#8211;actually too closed for my taste, but gives you an email that others people cannot access without being added to the students address book.  I&#8217;ve also found over the years that what email address you use to get other accounts (like blogs, wikispaces, scrapblog accounts, smilebox accounts, etc) doesn&#8217;t have to be a real one so you could use <a href="mailto:johns.brownschool@think.com">johns.brownschool@think.com</a>, for instance and know one would ever be the wiser. </p>
<p>P.S. We always get parent permission at the first of the year for setting up think.com accounts, emails, webpages, blogs, wikis, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Vicki Davis</title>
		<link>http://budtheteacher.com/blog/2007/05/02/no-e-mails-please/comment-page-1/#comment-1002</link>
		<dc:creator>Vicki Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 00:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Class blogmeister doesn&#039;t require an e-mail - http://www.classblogmeister.com  That is what I use!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Class blogmeister doesn&#8217;t require an e-mail &#8211; <a href="http://www.classblogmeister.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.classblogmeister.com</a>  That is what I use!</p>
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		<title>By: David Sader</title>
		<link>http://budtheteacher.com/blog/2007/05/02/no-e-mails-please/comment-page-1/#comment-1001</link>
		<dc:creator>David Sader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 21:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WordpressMU, no second choice.

http://edublogs.org/

Premium site is not priced out of range. The free blogs will suffice in the short term. User profiles can show email to public, but the blog can be closed to allow only logged in users, easy-peasy. Email is critical to comment moderation, trackbacks, in Wordpress, though. Comments can be restricted to logged in users only.

Edublogs is a great model to follow for your own mu install. I tried their free blogs a year ago, now have my own wpmu instal on school domain.

The mu forums are very focused on helping new installs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WordPressMU, no second choice.</p>
<p><a href="http://edublogs.org/" rel="nofollow">http://edublogs.org/</a></p>
<p>Premium site is not priced out of range. The free blogs will suffice in the short term. User profiles can show email to public, but the blog can be closed to allow only logged in users, easy-peasy. Email is critical to comment moderation, trackbacks, in WordPress, though. Comments can be restricted to logged in users only.</p>
<p>Edublogs is a great model to follow for your own mu install. I tried their free blogs a year ago, now have my own wpmu instal on school domain.</p>
<p>The mu forums are very focused on helping new installs.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Gibbs</title>
		<link>http://budtheteacher.com/blog/2007/05/02/no-e-mails-please/comment-page-1/#comment-1000</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura Gibbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 21:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use Bloglines Blogs for my online courses. an email address is required for account creation, but it is not displayed in the blog, and the blogger can also use a pseudonym instead of their real name, conceal all personal information. Bloglines Blogs do not have comments, so we do commenting at a password protected discussion board at school, but students are not subject to random comments from Internet passers-by, so to speak. the wysiwyg editor is pretty good, and it is SUPER easy to get started. I am very happy using Bloglines Blogs for my students&#039; weekly writing assignments (they also publish a website, but we use school webspace to do that; my school offers no blogging services of any kind). here are my notes about Bloglines blogs for my students:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bestmoodle.net/ks/blogger/bl_account.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.bestmoodle.net/ks/blogger/bl_account.htm&lt;/a&gt;
best wishes!
Laura Gibbs,
Norman Oklahoma</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use Bloglines Blogs for my online courses. an email address is required for account creation, but it is not displayed in the blog, and the blogger can also use a pseudonym instead of their real name, conceal all personal information. Bloglines Blogs do not have comments, so we do commenting at a password protected discussion board at school, but students are not subject to random comments from Internet passers-by, so to speak. the wysiwyg editor is pretty good, and it is SUPER easy to get started. I am very happy using Bloglines Blogs for my students&#8217; weekly writing assignments (they also publish a website, but we use school webspace to do that; my school offers no blogging services of any kind). here are my notes about Bloglines blogs for my students:<br />
<a href="http://www.bestmoodle.net/ks/blogger/bl_account.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.bestmoodle.net/ks/blogger/bl_account.htm</a><br />
best wishes!<br />
Laura Gibbs,<br />
Norman Oklahoma</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Clarke</title>
		<link>http://budtheteacher.com/blog/2007/05/02/no-e-mails-please/comment-page-1/#comment-999</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 14:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Bud, and everyone else who responded so quickly to my problem!  

The district policy is that students are not to be entering any personal information when they are using a computer, and their email address is considered personal information.  I think all of these suggestions would work, so now I&#039;ll start looking into them more closely to see if I can figure out which option will work best for the web discussion I&#039;m trying to set up.  

In an email Bud mentioned the possibility of a discussion board, which would work well also. Reading this, though, I like the idea of giving each student a personal blog space that would be his/her own.  There&#039;s something added to the experience when you can control the format and design, etc. So over the weekend I&#039;ll be taking a look at these options and make a decision.  My plan is for this to be our writing assessment for the last week of school so realistically I need to get things rolling early next week.  

Thanks again all, I can&#039;t tell you how helpful you&#039;ve been--amazing network you have going, I&#039;ll definitely be back to explore!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Bud, and everyone else who responded so quickly to my problem!  </p>
<p>The district policy is that students are not to be entering any personal information when they are using a computer, and their email address is considered personal information.  I think all of these suggestions would work, so now I&#8217;ll start looking into them more closely to see if I can figure out which option will work best for the web discussion I&#8217;m trying to set up.  </p>
<p>In an email Bud mentioned the possibility of a discussion board, which would work well also. Reading this, though, I like the idea of giving each student a personal blog space that would be his/her own.  There&#8217;s something added to the experience when you can control the format and design, etc. So over the weekend I&#8217;ll be taking a look at these options and make a decision.  My plan is for this to be our writing assessment for the last week of school so realistically I need to get things rolling early next week.  </p>
<p>Thanks again all, I can&#8217;t tell you how helpful you&#8217;ve been&#8211;amazing network you have going, I&#8217;ll definitely be back to explore!</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Ruffing</title>
		<link>http://budtheteacher.com/blog/2007/05/02/no-e-mails-please/comment-page-1/#comment-998</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat Ruffing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 00:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment on wikispaces:
I agree they are most helpful in setting up student accounts. But they also told me that I could have done it myself using the same email account (one of mine as a dummy acct) for each student and just never verifying the email account when I received the notification. When I set up another class I will probably do it this way to save aggravation. I can then email the students via the &quot;wikimail&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment on wikispaces:<br />
I agree they are most helpful in setting up student accounts. But they also told me that I could have done it myself using the same email account (one of mine as a dummy acct) for each student and just never verifying the email account when I received the notification. When I set up another class I will probably do it this way to save aggravation. I can then email the students via the &#8220;wikimail&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bud Hunt</title>
		<link>http://budtheteacher.com/blog/2007/05/02/no-e-mails-please/comment-page-1/#comment-997</link>
		<dc:creator>Bud Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 15:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you all for your great input and feedback.  Lots to digest here -- keep those suggestions coming!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you all for your great input and feedback.  Lots to digest here &#8212; keep those suggestions coming!</p>
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		<title>By: Scott S. Floyd</title>
		<link>http://budtheteacher.com/blog/2007/05/02/no-e-mails-please/comment-page-1/#comment-996</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott S. Floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 15:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wikispaces will also setup student accounts without email and assign them to a specific wiki.  They were very fast in getting it done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wikispaces will also setup student accounts without email and assign them to a specific wiki.  They were very fast in getting it done.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Fitzgerald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Fitzgerald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 15:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, Bud,

Given that &quot;there&#039;s a rule in place that he cannot expose his students&#039; e-mails to public scrutiny&quot; most commercial services won&#039;t really cut it here, as these services scrutinize a users online behavior in a far more thorough way than simply looking at an email address. Perhaps, though, I am naively assuming that the &quot;no email&quot; rule is an actual attempt to protect student privacy, as opposed to a checklist item to get past a specific school&#039;s &quot;security&quot; policy.

I also think you need to differentiate between using an email account to sign up for a service, and having that email account exposed on the internet. In a Drupal site, a person signs up for the site, but their contact info is completely invisible to non-site members, and can even be rendered invisible to site members (and by &quot;contact info&quot; I&#039;m specifically referring to their name, email, etc, and NOT their blog posts -- although you can set up a Drupal site where all content is invisible to non-site-members as well).

If there is a real concern about student security and privacy, an open source application gives you the most flexibility with regards to control over your data, and with regards to who scrutinizes your students&#039; data. 

The privacy policies of most of the commercial services mentioned in this thread explicitly allow them to share/sell user data with &quot;commercial partners&quot; --</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, Bud,</p>
<p>Given that &#8220;there&#8217;s a rule in place that he cannot expose his students&#8217; e-mails to public scrutiny&#8221; most commercial services won&#8217;t really cut it here, as these services scrutinize a users online behavior in a far more thorough way than simply looking at an email address. Perhaps, though, I am naively assuming that the &#8220;no email&#8221; rule is an actual attempt to protect student privacy, as opposed to a checklist item to get past a specific school&#8217;s &#8220;security&#8221; policy.</p>
<p>I also think you need to differentiate between using an email account to sign up for a service, and having that email account exposed on the internet. In a Drupal site, a person signs up for the site, but their contact info is completely invisible to non-site members, and can even be rendered invisible to site members (and by &#8220;contact info&#8221; I&#8217;m specifically referring to their name, email, etc, and NOT their blog posts &#8212; although you can set up a Drupal site where all content is invisible to non-site-members as well).</p>
<p>If there is a real concern about student security and privacy, an open source application gives you the most flexibility with regards to control over your data, and with regards to who scrutinizes your students&#8217; data. </p>
<p>The privacy policies of most of the commercial services mentioned in this thread explicitly allow them to share/sell user data with &#8220;commercial partners&#8221; &#8211;</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 12:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look slike you have a lot of great choices Bud.

21publish doesn&#039;t require e-mail, like Greg said, but there are other options like a free hosted forum that doesn&#039;t require e-mail. Forumer.com will let you creat your own forum, and let let you create the accoutns yourself, so you can just use one generic non-working e-mail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look slike you have a lot of great choices Bud.</p>
<p>21publish doesn&#8217;t require e-mail, like Greg said, but there are other options like a free hosted forum that doesn&#8217;t require e-mail. Forumer.com will let you creat your own forum, and let let you create the accoutns yourself, so you can just use one generic non-working e-mail.</p>
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